I am against all violence against innocent private people as a matter of morality. I am also against all active violence against the State or its officials, which includes violence against police. Totally against, not from a moral perspective, but a utilitarian one. Attacking a policeman or burning State property doesn’t accomplish anything. There is no point to it, so it should not be done. Morally I have no problem with it, and would not consider someone who attacks a policeman necessarily as a bad person. Stupid, maybe.
The only exception is if the State is actively moving on a vast population in mass destruction of property, in which case I would say it is both moral and practically effective to start destroying State property in self defense, as in slashing tires of the busses that are coming to expel you from your home in Gush Katif. But still, violence against the actual people is still a pretty bad idea.
The best way to protest police is to do it passively, by sitting down on a road, or by police headquarters, the way the blacks protested the State in the 1960’s. That was perfect. I would have loved to be part of that.
So when I came across this piece of news, that the Baltimore riots are now spreading to Jerusalem with Ethiopians clashing with police, I was happy. Though I think this is stupid and would not myself join them, I’m still rooting for the Ethiopians, as long as they ONLY target police or state property, NEVER private property.
To be more effective, they need to stage nonviolent sit-ins, overcrowd police stations, the way Gandhi did it with the British.
The solution, of course, is to cut off welfare, end the minimum wage, get rid of child labor laws, and end all drug laws. Let the Ethiopians work for whatever salary they can get on the market in whatever industry needs them. Unemployment will fall to zero, and there will be less idle Ethiopians on welfare and shut out of the labor markets by the minimum wage to clash with police, and these riots wouldn’t erupt.
So, good luck, and give the pigs a run for their money. Meaning our money. But you don’t have anyone’s support if you just go torching private property.
“The solution, of course, is to cut off welfare, end the minimum wage, get rid of child labor laws,”
There is no *solution* to the problem of a group with a mean IQ in the 70-80 region struggling to cope with life in a first world country. Since they are family we just have to cope as best we can. Of course, the other 1,000,000,000 or so who aren’t family should never be allowed in.
However, even if the measures you support would “solve” the problem, the fact is that in the real world this is the precise opposite of what blacks in Israel (and America) are rioting for, which is more welfare and more pro-labour* laws.
*I feel compelled, since you have a tendency to obtuseness, to point out that I do not personally consider such laws to be pro-labour
Like in Baltimore you say? Funny thing I quote here the mayor of the city who says that she (and/or her partisans) are fine with people vandalizing and will “give them space” to do so (that is ..anything) [as long as it keeps them calm].
I wouldn’t spend “gossip” so here is the source:
“During a press conference, Baltimore mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake said most protesters were respectful but a “small group of agitators intervened”.[17] She also stated that “It’s a very delicate balancing act. Because while we try to make sure that they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well. And we worked very hard to keep that balance and to put ourselves in the best position to de-escalate.”[18] The phrase “we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well” was interpreted by some conservative-leaning news sources[19][20][21] as an indication that the mayor was giving permission to protesters to destroy property, while some others, including Breitbart News Network, pointed out that “when you look at the full context, it’s clear the Mayor meant something different (though it’s also true she didn’t say it very clearly).”[22]”
And here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Baltimore_riots
I don’t believe a professional politician says any different than what they mean and they shouldn’t be given the excuse of analyzing their words as if they are mentally inflicted from the trauma of the universe and they can’t express themselves correctly.
.. dedicated to those who think | the states | do not know how to benefit from people’s platonian anger (self-righteous that is)….
So for the riots in Jerusalem – unless naturally a Martin Luther King springs from them and tells them how to protest, or ^^the communists^^ don’t find a way to stir the people’s energy into “intelighentsia” – eventually they will vandalize all sorts of property, the state won’t even have to spend police or army to intervene, you will have to intervene and all they have to do is sit quiet and play it low, knowing you are now comforted by their existence. Now that it’s started…
But this will be a good test for you to see if the state of Israel is as corrupted (that is.. as un-special across the planet), as you suspect. Because apparently the knowledge of manipulation is turning around the planet “faster than the speed of light” to all civilized countries’ leaders. Leaders today are pretty clever. So if the Israeli state intervenes here it may be a sign they’re honestly not trying to stir you up against these protesters to legitimize the state’s existence in eyes of those “in doubt”.
All is not lost.