Seth responds: Supporting Ron Paul is suicidal Israeli insanity

This was a good one:

More suicidal Israeli insanity. Ron Paul goes on Iranian TV, calls Gaza a concentration camp, and can’t believe that Palestinians with homemade bombs are the aggressors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17dFsK8DSSE
He stresses that Hamas is a democratically elected government. He’s also a frequent guest on the Jew-hating Alex Jones show, his newsletter blamed Israel for the 1993 WTC bombing, I could go on and on. Yeah, he’ll be a great friend of Israel, idiots.

Seth, you don’t have to call us idiots. We’re pretty smart, well thought out, and we are careful with our words. I had an Iranian email me actually about this article saying that freedom can unite even us. And it can. As for responding point by point, I’ve already dealt with this specific video, but I’ll give it another go just for you.

Seth, Ron Paul is not a Jew. To him, “concentration camp” does not bring forth holocaust imagery. He used a bad term, and he should apologize for it. But essentially, he’s right. Gaza is a concentration camp, or more appropriately, internment camp. They have nowhere to go and we’re not letting them go anywhere, so we are the aggressors. If it’s their land, they should be allowed to import and export what they want. If it’s ours, we should throw them out and move back in. But right now, Gaza is a humanitarian disaster that we created. Read Moshe Feiglin’s article The Gaza Flotilla and the Gallant Rapist. He’s saying pretty much the same thing as Paul.

As for Iranian TV, that’s irrelevant. Morechai Kedar goes on Al Jazeera, is he anti Israel?

Hamas IS a democratically elected government. They were voted in in 2007. This doesn’t mean they aren’t evil. They are, and I’d like to kill them. But Paul’s right. We told them to have elections, they did, Hamas won.

Jew-Hating Alex Jones show? Have you ever watched the Alex Jones Show, or is this a line you simply took from someone else?

As for the newsletter issue, that has been beaten to death. Here’s the final word on who wrote those.

Once again Seth, how does an anti Israel candidate defend Israel’s right to bomb Iraq in 1981?

If you want a more thorough assessment of this video you attached, see this post.

Good Shabbos Seth. Rafi the suicidally insane signing off.

 

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5 thoughts on “Seth responds: Supporting Ron Paul is suicidal Israeli insanity

  1. You have to be very naive to think Dr. Paul doesn’t know what “concentration camp” means when discussing Jewish issues. Very naive. Nor is it an accident that Dr. Paul called offense rockets “home-made bombs”, pretending they are little defensive devices. Nor was he being neutral when he chose to pick an aggressor — Israel, of course.

    Ron Paul parrots the Palestinian line at every turn and has never criticized an Islamic government that I am aware of, particularly Iran, a happy land of executions for women who transgress Muslim law, and a government that shoots down its own citizens in the street, except for the ones it hauls off to torture prisons.

    And it is sheer madness that one would label Israel aggressors by preventing suicide bombers from going “where they want” and avowed enemies from gaining any weapons they want.

    Yes, Hamas won the elections, so whoever supported them in those elections are wholeheartedly behind the idea of destroying the nation of Israel, and thus cannot complain when Israel defends itself. The Palestinian disaster is of their own making, and would end immediately, if they took the Japanese approach and renounced hatred and war.

    Ron Paul has a deep-seated disdain for Israel, and would like to see it gone. Thankfully, the vast majority of Americans see through him.

  2. I just wanted to say “THANK YOU!!”

    A dear friend by the name of “Rose” posted this video link on her FB page and asked me to watch:

    I understand from the video that the narrator was reading from an article you posted on this site.

    I posted the video link to my FB page with this comment:

    “Please take the time to watch this video. And it doesn’t matter whether or not you support Ron Paul. The main points of this video center on two words: SOUL and FREEDOM. For freedom to manifest in our world we need more souls to be activated. An “activated soul” acts like a spark in void, a candle in a cave, a light in the wilderness or a lighthouse shining it’s beacon along the rocky shores of the sea. The light of truth resides within every individual, but our soul must be “activated” for this light to shine. We are all created by our Creator to be lighthouses, beacons of hope and faith for mankind.”

    Keep up the great work!

    Freedom is a force that will unite the world as ONE FAMILY and I really appreciate what you have been called to share in support for this cause. And it’s NOT about “Ron Paul” as I am sure you can appreciate.

    Thanks again!

    PS. I am one of the moderators of a national conference call-show that’s been going strong for 234+ consecutive weeks. We would be greatly humbled and honored to have you on our show some Thursday evening. The original name for our call was “The National Ron Paul Meetup Call” and we were honored to have Ron on as our special guest 3 times during the 2007-2008 period. The individual who was originally responsible for getting this off the ground was the late Aaron Russo.

  3. That Seth guy is silly, first of all Alex Jones is not a jew hater, his wife is Jewish!! Ron Paul’s whole principles are based on Ludwig von Mises, a Jew who escaped the Nazis.

    Some people are just so ignorant of facts it’s hilarious.

    • And Stalin’s principles were based on Karl Marx, a self-hating Jew. Guess that means Stalin wasn’t an anti-semite.
      Ron Paul was influenced by Murray Rothbard, another self-hating Jew.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard
      In “War Guilt in the Middle East,” Rothbard details Israel’s “aggression against Middle East Arabs,” confiscatory policies, and its “refusal to let these refugees return and reclaim the property taken from them.”

      http://reason.com/archives/2008/01/16/who-wrote-ron-pauls-newsletter
      Lamenting that mainstream intellectuals and opinion leaders were too invested in the status quo to be brought around to a libertarian view, Rothbard pointed to David Duke and Joseph McCarthy as models for an “Outreach to the Rednecks,” which would fashion a broad libertarian/paleoconservative coalition by targeting the disaffected working and middle classes. (Duke, a former Klansman, was discussed in strikingly similar terms in a 1990 Ron Paul Political Report.)

      So I agree, some people ARE just so ignorant of facts it’s hilarious.

      • Seth –

        Both Karl Marx and Stalin were anti Semites. Murray Rothbard, however, was not a self-hating Jew. He was anti-Zionist, as am I to a degree. While I believe that all Jews belong in Israel, as you do, I believe that Zionism is evil in that it believes we can just kick Arabs out of Israel because. In the sense that Zionism has no right to this place as the philosophy currently stands, Rothbard was right. There’s nothing in that quote I disagree with. Property was taken from Arabs, and the Zionists don’t even claim that Israel is theirs. They claim, rather, that because of holocausts we need a refuge, and we may as well take Israel even though you, the Arabs, live here. This is offensive and wrong.

        If you want to know more about this, read Moti Karpel’s book HaMahapecha HaEmunit. It’s in Hebrew, but you may be able to handle it.

        As for reaching out and David Duke, I have no problem working with anti Semites to promote Ron Paul. If we can unite on freedom, I don’t care if you’re anti Semitic.

        And please, quoting those newsletters just makes you look shallow. And stop calling my commenters ignorant. No need to revert to namecalling. We’re all free men here, we can speak to each other nicely. Next time you do that I will not publish your comment.

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