Those who think Iran would nuke Israel are easily swayed by American propaganda. I would still support Israel destroying the Iranian nuclear reactor though, but not this pandering whining nonsense of Netanyahu constantly crying to the West to “do something”.
RT just interviewed Mohammad Jahad Zarif, Iran’s Foreign Minister, on this topic. To preempt, no, I don’t agree with everything Zarif says in this article. Just making a point that the State-controlled US main stream media (state licenses all the airwaves) emphasizes what it wants and ignores what it doesn’t. There will be zero, absolutely zero, American media outlets reporting these comments. And people therefore assume, from what they read in the state-controlled media in America, that Iran for whatever reason wants to nuke everything and reinstate the 13th Imam and other warmongering stupidity.
If Bibi wants to take out the Iranian nuclear program, then shut up and do it and take the consequences. Stop the warmongering US-pandering BS.
These comments, however, I completely agree with. Thank you Zarif for your sanity, at least as reflected in these remarks:
“It is truly, truly regrettable that bigotry gets to the point of making allegations against an entire nation which has saved Jews three times in its history: Once during that time of a prime minister who was trying to kill the Jews, and the king saved the Jews; again during the time of Cyrus the Great, where he saved the Jews from Babylon, and during the Second World War, where Iran saved the Jews,” he said.
“We’re not about the annihilation of Jews,” Zarif stressed, reminding the channel that 20,000 Jews reside in Iran “in peace” and even have their own representative in parliament.
“We have a history of tolerance and cooperation and living together in coexistence with our own Jewish people, and with Jews everywhere in the world. If people want to espouse fear mongering to fan such hysteria in the world, that’s to their detriment,” Zarif said.
The Jewish Libertarian 
You make a few good points. They may not want to nuke us, because they would just end up poisoning themselves. But, what should make us think that they care? Their deity will make a miracle to save them, they believe.
But, seriously, why would you believe anything that bastard Zarif says anyway?
Furthermore, saved the Jews? How so?
Jews are oppressed in Iran, accused of espionage, you name it. Just ask any Persian Jew who came (after 1979) to the U. S. with nothing, or who walked for miles across the border, or who had to sneak around the system to escape.
Being a “good little dhimmi” does not equal being “saved.”
I don’t know Zarif but what he says sounds good to me. Maybe he’s lying. I can only report his comments. As to Jewish life in Iran, I really don’t know much about it. People tell me to ask “any Iranian” but I’ve never heard first person evidence of anything horrible going on there. I’m sure it’s not divine, but it’s no holocaust.
I think it’s worth looking into. I say ask any Iranian, as many Jews in NY and CA know plenty (eg. Great Neck, Beverly Hills, etc.). But, you’re not from either of these cities, so you probably just don’t know very many, or as many as those of us who are from NY or CA.
You might also contact Elad Pereg, the famous one-man LA counter protest. He is a native Persian speaker and keeps tabs on these things.
Thanks for the info!
Won’t it explode and irradiate neighboring countries and people? Nuclear power is a knife with two edges. But a great discovery of science they say.
I don’t think US intends to destroy nuclear powers across the planet, if they are honest they just want to convince people not to make bombs but plants for electricity and stuff.
But it’s dangerous.
But they don’t think it’s more dangerous than other things and society needs it. So be it.
Unfortunately they used it so this will always be a thing.
If it’s bad to have nuclear power then it’s too late. Most powerful countries in the world own it, use it, and will never give it up. And they are even careless, just like Russians with Cernobil. If even the Japanese were careless with those plants. Germany too.
I fear more a nuclear disaster coming from misusing the plants. That is a real danger and highly possible.
One of those plants explodes states will yell – terrorists! – to hide their fault in front of people. So stupid! Cernobil exploded while Gorbatchev was leading Soviet Union. People did not chase him with daggers and it might have to do with the fact that he also did other things which were useful and in the end he really wasn’t the one who distracted those workers who sadly paid with their own lives. People would be reasonable in accusing the leaders if leaders would learn to appreciate honesty about informing people.
I agree with the dismantling of nuclear anything but destroying is too dangerous.
Nuclear power is a lot like religion. People discovered it, love its power and don’t know how to manage the dangers. Except religion is supposedly eventually controlled by God since it’s about Him. But what controls nuclear power? Magic?
Iran during the Holocaust wasn’t run by fanatic Muslims who have stated — publically — their intent to destroy Israel. I can’t believe you’re gullible enough to fall for this.
You know, it’s damned if you do damned if you don’t. People like you like pointing to one line of one speech Ahmadinajad made 10 years ago, and say there is no evidence to the contrary. You say I’m gullible because I choose to believe the guy that says we don’t want to nuke Israel. I say you’re gullible because you choose to believe the guy who says we want to “wipe Israel off the map”.
It’s either Russian propaganda or American propaganda. So you pick one. I pick Russian. You got a problem with that?
“It’s either Russian propaganda or American propaganda. So you pick one. I pick Russian. You got a problem with that?”
You are literally beyond parody at this point.
I think that by this point, accusing you of being part of Paulbot cult, willing to say quite literally anything, to quote Russian state propaganda, to mindlessly parrot propaganda by the Middle East’s most aggressively imperialist power, simply in order to show how not neo-con you are, would be an understatement.
Middle East’s most aggressively imperialist power is the one with all the military bases throughout the middle east, Gavriel. Your comments are always well thought out in terms of the various kinds of name-calling you can come up with in a single sentence.
I expended a not inconsiderable amount of effort dealing with your incorrect assertions and moral faults in a fairly comprehensive fashion and your response was to ignore it. You are not interested in anything other than making the most outlandishly Paulbotian statements that you can think up to play some childish game of anti neocon one upmanship. I’m inclined to think you’ve already the bullseye, but if you continue trying hard enough perhaps you’ll prove me wrong.
Gavriel, either you are very forgetful or crazy. I spent an entire post rebutting each of your points. If that is ignoring, then you are literally beyond parody at this point. Apparently, according to you, quoting an Iranian official who says he does not want to nuke Israel and that Iran saves Jews, is immoral. Somehow I question your judgement. Good Shabbos.
I refer to my comment here at 10.39 https://thejewishlibertarian.com/2015/02/01/rachmana-litzlan-mehai-daita-rachman-litzlan-medaita-didach/#comments and your response.
Making nonsensical and outlandish apologetics for the most wicked statists on the planet as part of an infantile attempt to out-retard a bunch of ignoramuses who, like you, have never even bothered to read to the end of Human Action, typing away in their mother’s basement somewhere in Missouri, and thus prove how superduperultralibertarian you are is what is immoral.
I’m not a superduperultralibertarian. I’m a superduperultramegagigantolibertarian. Strange that I would write “I would still support Israel destroying the Iranian nuclear reactor though.” Maybe I’m losing my touch.
Don’t mess with Missouri!
I’ve read in several places over time that both US and Israeli intelligence agencies estimate that Iran doesn’t have nuclear ambitions. Is it true? Who knows? But I doubt it’s less true than Bibi’s overt self-serving propaganda. Game Theory demonstrates why Iran would want nuclear weapons that has little to do with destroying Israel and everything to do with US bullying.
As Feiglin has pointed out too, the problem is not a nuclear Iran. It’s Iranian government types bloviating on how they want or intend to destroy Israel. Such a Chillul Hashem cannot be left unchallenged. But again, the problem is not with the ancient nation of Persia or its people, who have a long history of relatively peaceful relations with the Jews. The problem is with those loudmouths who enjoy hearing their bombastic comments reported in the media. Keep taking them out until it stops.
But Bibi cannot phrase the justification for action like this because of its overtly Jewish viewpoint.
I agree with Shimshon. Check this out:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/05/wade-stone/the-insane-plan-to-bomb-iran/
Mr. Zarif also said the following:
“In 1992, [Bibi] said Iran was three years away from the bomb or four years away from the bomb. In 1996, he repeated that. He said, in 2012, before the entire world, before the General Assembly of the United Nations, with that cartoon of a bomb, that Iran was a year away from making a bomb…”
(My rejoinder to the post on libertarianism and halacha is coming along slowly.)